Why can’t we just simply expand on the health care plans we already have rather than creating a whole new one?
March 7th, 2010 | by admin |We already have medicare and medicaid, why can’t we simply clean these up and expand who is covered under these rather than creating a whole new health care plan? Medicaid already is pro-rated based upon income, why do we need a whole new health care plan?
Good idea~make it *one size fits all* and we all will have health care
just like in Havan~say Michale Moore
14 Responses to “Why can’t we just simply expand on the health care plans we already have rather than creating a whole new one?”
By The Left Hand of Darkness on Mar 7, 2010 | Reply
OK, I’m game. How do we do this?
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By Beachgirl on Mar 7, 2010 | Reply
I asked that same thing before. I got no real answers though. It seems like it would make sense to just allow the uninsured to have Medicaid instead of spending soooooo much money to start something new.
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By R J on Mar 8, 2010 | Reply
Incredible question. He even stated that care and caid were "bankrupting" the country and theanswerr is a bigger deal. No the country is bankrupt now and not sure why they are passing cap and trade. Funny China told hillary to pay it for them and India said take a hike.
In answer I guess you cannot destroy the country fast enough. Also the prescription plan they got into cost seniors an average of $500-700 more and most 25%.
This will be a nightmare and his wife was an attorney for a hospital that they have tape of them throwing homeless people out in the area to get out of the hospital.
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By Conservative in Exile on Mar 8, 2010 | Reply
We can. Obama does not care about Health Care,all he wants is to have it Government controlled. More power for his Socialist agenda…
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By joey on Mar 8, 2010 | Reply
well that wouldn’t be any fun.
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By Fred K on Mar 8, 2010 | Reply
the Health Insurance Plan isn’t a free-bee they will make you Pay for it its to cover the People the Insurance company’s won’t cover and will be Prorated according to your Ability to pay
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By Fbo on Mar 8, 2010 | Reply
They should be forced to fix both, before we let them anywhere near our PRIVATE COVERAGE !
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By ahhhhhhinine on Mar 8, 2010 | Reply
because they suck. It’s like writing a report. You start out with a sucky report. You can try to clean it up and fix your mistakes, and maybe in the end it will be a C+. Or you can scrap the whole thing and start over to get and A-. Not perfect but better than a C+.
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Taken from experience. I was the only one in my class, in all of the teachers classes who got and A. Because I wouldn’t take a crappy C+.
By Just Plain American on Mar 8, 2010 | Reply
Because that runs off of non-profit. The whole purpose is too get people to buy from government sanctioned private health care providers, so they can get kick backs from it.
Anyone with brains can see what is going on.
They claim it will be cheaper, but it isn’t going to be. They will make the money up somewhere. Once they got you, they got you.
This is how this will go. They will offer discount insurance at first. People will buy it up (it will NEVER be free, I promise you). They will take a little more tax from you based most likely on a percentage of your check. At first it will be voluntary. Eventually all companies but those the politicians choose for us to have will go bankrupt. Over time they will lock almost everyone in to the cheap health care. The majority will think it is great. The will then require by law you get the government health care (runned by their hand picked private companies). Then, they will slowly increase its price once everyone is locked in. Who are you gonnna sue? The government, LOL!
Take for instance the cash for clunkers. This was so people would go out and get long term loans for new cars. Of course they made it seem like they are giving you a good deal. But the real purpose was to increase credit loans at a higher a interest rate. I mean you even paid 6% if you had a credit score of 800 or higher. Just last year your percent would have been 0 or 2%.
Guess who is the main contributor to politicians….Financial institutes.
So in essence, they used your tax money to help increase profit for loan companies so they could recover their losses from people being smart and paying off their cars and saving their money. They made them richer and you poorer. LOL
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By JusSoliSanguinus=nat'lborn on Mar 8, 2010 | Reply
the point is OBama wants total uber control and to kill off those he desires
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By west coast on Mar 8, 2010 | Reply
and the private HMO SHOULD NOT BE SUBSIDIZED BY THE US GOVERNMENT ANYMORE EITHER
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By Guru on Mar 8, 2010 | Reply
Good idea~make it *one size fits all* and we all will have health care
just like in Havan~say Michale Moore
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By Mujer Alta on Mar 8, 2010 | Reply
Thank You! A whole lot of us are wondering the same thing. Why does Congress have to take a simple task and turn it into the world’s biggest circus? They should stick with the problem: 47 million uninsured Americans and keep its solution as simple as possible. But they’ve all got too many strings attached to them that came with the money they’re all getting from the health care and insurance industries. So they dance around like the puppets they are.
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By Jill M on Mar 8, 2010 | Reply
How can they (the Senate and House) possibly imagine they are competent and able to run a National Health Care – they have failed with Social Security – did you know when SS was started that all the money pd in was supposed to be invested in Long Term Mutual Funds and other blue chip stock but they could not keep their greedy fingers out of the pot so now it is almost broke.. but WE let that happen.
Medicaid and Medicare are a bust but it is better than what O has planned.
Look at every government office you’ve ever been in? Did you get premier care or any customer svc at all?
The first step should be build a big fence and then deport all the illegals not let the illegal aliens bk in and – it would save our government MORE than we are spending on all the wars in the past CENTURY in a very short time.
Then Medicaid and Medicare should be revamped. I think HMO’s need to be examined and probably kicked out of the whole system. I believe it can be done but we would have to have honest Senators and Representatives that care about the American people and WHERE will we get them?
TAke a peak what is in store for us – just take the time to read this and you no doubt will be shocked – the link to orig is included.
If you want to check on any of the following here is the link to the full text:
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text
I hope everyone will at least look through this commentary ~ it points out things we should all be concerned about – clearly.
Inside the Health Care Bill, aka HR3200
July 22, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Here is the entire 1017 page Health Care Bill… and commentary…
There is a man by the name of Peter Fleckstein (aka Fleckman) who is reading
it and has been posting on Twitter his findings. This is from his postings
(Note: All comments are Fleckman’s)
Pg 16: SEC. 102, lines 3-26, PROTECTING THE CHOICE TO KEEP CURRENT COVERAGE:
Outlaws private insurance by forbidding enrollment after HR 3022 is passed
into law.
Pg 21-22: SEC. 113. INSURANCE RATING RULES of the HC Bill MANDATES the
Government will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!
Pg 29, SEC. 122, ESSENTIAL BENEFITS PACKAGE DEFINED: On lines 4-16… Your
health care is rationed!
Pg 30, SEC. 123, HEALTH BENEFITS ADVISORY COMMITTEE: There will be a
government committee that decides what treatments/benefits you get.
Pg 42, SEC. 142, DUTIES AND AUTHORITY OF COMMISSIONER: The Health Choices
Commissioner will choose your health care benefits for you. You have no
choice!
PG 50-51, SEC. 152, PROHIBITING DISCRIMINATION IN HEALTH CARE: Health care
will be provided to ALL NON-US citizens, here legally or otherwise.
Pg 58, SEC. 163, ADMINISTRATIVE SIMPLIFICATION: Government will have
real-time access to individual’s finances and a National ID Health Card will
be issued!
Pg 59, SEC. 163, Lines 21-24, ADMINISTRATIVE SIMPLIFICATION: Government will
have direct access to your BANK ACCOUNTS for electronic funds transfer. This
means the government can go in and take your money right out of your bank
account.
Oh My God!
PG 65, SEC. 164, REINSURANCE PROGRAM FOR RETIREES: A subsidized plan for
Union retirees and their families, and to community organizations (think
ACORN).
Pg 72, SEC. 201, Lines 8-14, ESTABLISHMENT OF HEALTH INSURANCE EXCHANGE;
OUTLINE OF DUTIES; DEFINITIONS: Creates an "Exchange" to bring private
health care plans under Government control.
PG 84. SEC. 203, BENEFITS PACKAGE LEVELS: Government mandates ALL benefit
packages for private health care plans in the Exchange.
PG 85, SEC. 203. BENEFITS PACKAGE LEVELS Line 7 HC Bill – SPECIFICATION OF
BENEFIT LEVELS FOR PLANS = The Government will ration your Healthcare!
PG 91: SEC. 204, Lines 4-7, CONTRACTS FOR THE OFFERING OF
EXCHANGE-PARTICIPATING HEALTH BENEFITS PLANS: Government mandates linguistic
appropriate services. (Example – Translation for illegal aliens!)
Pg 95, SEC. 205, Lines 8-18, OUTREACH AND ENROLLMENT OF EXCHANGE-ELIGIBLE
INDIVIDUALS AND EMPLOYERS IN EXCHANGE-PARTICIPATING HEALTH BENEFITS PLAN:
The Government will use groups (i.e., ACORN and Americorps) to sign up
individuals for Government plan.
PG 102, SEC. 205, Lines 12-18, OUTREACH AND ENROLLMENT OF EXCHANGE-ELIGIBLE
INDIVIDUALS AND EMPLOYERS IN EXCHANGE-PARTICIPATING HEALTH BENEFITS PLAN:
Medicaid Eligible Individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No
choice!
PG 124, SEC. 223, lines 24-25, PAYMENT RATES FOR ITEMS AND SERVICES: No
company can sue the GOVERNMENT on price fixing. No "judicial review"
against Government Monopoly!
PG 127, SEC. 225, Lines 1-16, PROVIDER PARTICIPATION, DOCTORS / AMA: The
Government will dictate the income of doctors and other health care
professionals.
PG 145, SEC. 312, Line 15-17: EMPLOYER RESPONSIBILITY TO CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS
EMPLOYEE AND DEPENDENT COVERAGE: An Employer MUST auto enroll employees
into public option plan. NO CHOICE!
PG 14
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This is very scary – beware.